Cardiac Anesthesia Subcommittee Minutes
December 13, 2022
1:00pm – 2:00pm EST
Zoom
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Atwood, Tammy (Henry Ford Allegiance)
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Kertai, Miklos (Vanderbilt)
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Bailey, Meridith (MPOG)
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Kumar, Vikram (Massachusetts General Hospital)
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Barrios, Nicole (MPOG)
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Low, Ying (Dartmouth)
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Bottiger, Brandi (Duke)
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Malenfant, Tiffany (MPOG)
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Brown, Morgan (Boston Childrens)
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Mathis, Mike (MPOG)
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Buehler, Kate (MPOG)
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Riggar, Ronnie (MPOG)
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Clark, Melissa (MSTCVS)
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Schwerin, Denise (Bronson)
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Fisher, Clark (Yale)
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Shook, Doug (Brigham & Women’s)
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Heiter, Jerri (Trinity - St. Joseph Ann Arbor)
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Theurer, Patty (MSTCVS)
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Janda, Allison (MPOG)
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Venkataramani, Ranjani (UCSF)
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Katta, Guarav (Henry Ford Health System)
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Welle, Erin (University of Michigan)
Meeting Summary
1. Research Opportunity
a. The VARSITY Surgery group is conducting a study as a part of our NHLBI-funded R01
titled “Reuse of Operating Room Team View Digital Recordings of Cardiac Surgery for
Evaluating Non-Technical Practices” that seeks to:
i. learn more about the relationship between peer based assessments of
intraoperative non-technical practices and risk-adjusted complication rates after
cardiac surgery
ii. evaluate the feasibility of automating computer-based analyses of digital
recordings to assess intraoperative non-technical practices
b. They plan to recruit cardiothoracic surgeon peer assessors, cardiac anesthesiology peer
assessors, and perfusion peer assessors
c. The group is inviting attending cardiac anesthesiologists to participate as peer
reviewers. Reviewers will receive a $45 Amazon gift card after completing each peer
assessment assignment
d. Time commitment:
i. Fill out the Peer Reviewer Informed Consent form (5 mins)
ii. Complete a demographic survey (5 minutes)
iii. Complete a ~45-50 minute training on a validated anesthesia non-technical skills
assessment tool (ANTS)
iv. Sign an attestation form prior to viewing any recordings and attest to adhering
to data privacy
v. Review and assess video segments representing cardiac surgery operations (~10
minutes each)
vi. There is no pre-specified number of recorded segments you may analyze
e. If you or a colleague is willing to participate, please fill out the Peer Reviewer Informed
Consent and email me (ajanda@med.umich.edu) or Korana Stakich-Alpirez
(kstakich@med.umich.edu) and we will request your contact information to set up a
UMich account to view the trainings and video assessments
2. Glucose Management - Cardiac Literature Review
a. MSTCVS (Michigan Cardiac Surgery CQI) has chosen glycemic management as a focus
area for 2023. MPOG is aligning with these efforts with the new glycemic management
measure: GLU-06-CARD
b. Glucose Measure Literature/Guidelines (full literature review document here):
i. In a study of 510 patients undergoing cardiovascular surgery and found the
incidence of AKI to be higher in patients with high HbA1c levels preoperatively;
Every 1% increase over 6% in HgA1c levels increased the risk of renal
complications by 24%
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ii. Glycemic variability, a standard deviation of all POC-BG readings, is associated
with increased postoperative LOS-ICU, rise in creatinine, and AKI
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iii. A study including 761 cardiac surgery patients and found that diabetics were at
increased risk of infection and glucose control (120-160 mg/dL) reduced the risk
of wound infection in diabetics 3
iv. In a randomized controlled trial, moderate glucose control defined as 127-179
mg/dl was found to be preferable to tight control 126 in patients undergoing
CABG
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v. Incidence of AKI was higher in patients with time-weighted average intraop
glucose of >150mg/dl (8%) as compared to patients with blood glucose 110-150
mg/dl (3%)
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vi. KDIGO - recommends maintaining blood glucose between 110 - 149 mg/dL in
critically ill patients
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vii. Tight glucose control (<150mg/dl) is seen as controversial as risks of
hypoglycemia are significant: NICE-SUGAR meta-analysis
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viii. Society of Thoracic Surgeons (STS) Practice Guidelines recommend maintaining
serum glucose levels 180 mg/dL for at least 24 hours after cardiac surgery
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ix. Guidelines for Perioperative Care in Cardiac Surgery from the Enhanced
Recovery After Surgery Society recommends treatment of blood glucose
>160-180mg/dL with an insulin infusion
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3. Next Cardiac Measure: GLU-06
a. Current form from the discussions the last meeting: Percentage of patients, 18 years
age, who undergo open cardiac surgical procedures under general anesthesia of 120
minutes case duration or longer for whom any blood glucose measure >/=180mg/dL was
either treated with insulin or rechecked and found to be below 180mg/dL within 60
minutes.
b. Measure Period: Anesthesia Start Anesthesia End
c. MPOG Concepts Considered
d. Attribution:The provider signed in at the first blood glucose of >180mg/dL. In the event
that two or more providers in the same role are signed in, both will receive the
feedback.
e. Inclusions: All patients, 18 years of age or older, who undergo open cardiac surgical
procedures (as determined by Procedure Type: Cardiac phenotype) under general
anesthesia of 120 minutes duration or longer.
f. Exclusions
i. ASA 6
ii. Organ harvest (CPT: 01990)
iii. Non-cardiac cases as defined as those cases not meeting criteria for the cardiac
case type phenotype
iv. Within the general cardiac case type phenotype, exclude:
Transcatheter/Endovascular, EP/Cath groups and Other Cardiac
v. Cases with age <18
g. Limitations: Any glucose checks not entered into the EHR will not be captured
h. Remaining Questions:
i. Restrict to “open cardiac” only? Or also “transcatheter/endovascular”?
1. After discussion, keep to “open cardiac” for now.
ii. Ok to continue validating and proceed with publishing in early 2023?
1. After discussion, ok to proceed with validating, will bring any additional
questions or changes to the group via Basecamp and aim to publish
before our next meeting.
i. Discussion:
i. Mike Mathis (MPOG Research Director): Should we include other cardiac-like
cases, like transcatheter/endovascular? At face value, seems like we should
include all cardiac case types but the primary measure should focus on open
cardiac so you can compare teh same kind of case across sites and then a
secondary group of cases to track glucose measurement for the other case types
1. Douglas Shook (Brigham and Women’s): I agree. I consider transcatheter
cases as cardiac procedures and the more we include them in our
discussion it sets a standard that we consider those patients to be
included in our domain.
2. Allison Janda (MPOG Cardiac Sub. Chair): I agree. Ideally we would be
able to toggle to open cardiac vs. transcatheter cases only. However,
some of these cases may not be very long whereas we may want to only
focus more granularly at open cardiac as a first step and have the
discussion later on if we want to add them in.
a. Douglas Shook (BWH): Sounds reasonable.
ii. Morgan Brown (Boston Children’s) via chat: Do you think this amount of
variation means that people don’t follow/believe in this metric? We don’t stick
to this at Boston Children’s, but we are a children’s hospital with a young adult
population.
1. Allison Janda (MPOG Cardiac Sub. Chair): This is a very interesting point.
We are on the low end of performance for this measure at U of M and it
isn’t because we don’t believe in it or try to follow it but more so that
the first glucose we take are within normal ranges and then need to
improve on anticipating when the glucose will rise. We definitely believe
glucose management is important in cardiac cases..
2. Mike Mathis (MPOG Research Director): I don’t think any institution
would say they don’t care about taking care of their patients but more
so, we’re busy and have lots going on during these cases. During the
Michigan MSTCVS meeting, the discussion led to more of a
cross-collaboration issue between perfusionists and anesthesiologists in
communicating the results and following up with insulin treatment.
Excited to see what happens when we start working on this measure
and discussing it during this subcommittee.
a. Erin Welle (University of Michigan) via chat - To add on to Mike, I
think it's also a function of how much plegia the surgeon wants
and variation in perfusionist practice during plegia
administration. there's a wide variation at U of M how much
plegia is being given
3. Guarav Katta (Henry Ford Health System): Is this useful information for
me to have as a cardiac anesthesiologist? Yes- it is useful for me to look
at these cases and determine if there was anything different I could have
done differently when reviewing these cases. If we restrict ourselves to
only open cardiac, I think we’ll have more cases excluded over time as
we move away from open cardiac as an approach procedurally. Can
address that longer term.
4. Vikram Kumar (MGH): Considering the utility of this measure - should
we add a limit for time frame to assess how long it was >180mg/dL
before requiring treatment? Also, in support of looking at open cardiac
only at this point.
a. Allison Janda (Cardiac Sub. Chair): Resounding feedback from
the last meeting was we don’t know how long is too long for
exposure to a high glucose to result in a poor outcome. Great
research project but we don’t know what the time duration
would be at this point.
b. Mike Mathis (MPOG Research Director): Agree this is a great
research project and we will do this.
iii. Clark Fisher (Yale) via chat: I apologize, since I wasn’t able to make the last
meeting - do we have a sense of how many of the flagged cases had an out of
range glucose the first time during the case that an anesthesiologist
encountered them?
1. Allison Janda (Cardiac Sub. Chair): This is an interesting point. Should
these patients be included or excluded? Currently we are including
these cases and are looking Anesthesia start to Anesthesia End. The
overall approach I use is to treat the elevated glucose in the holding
room prior to the case starting so that it should be lower (ideally <180)
when we recheck it on our first ABG. Even for patients with an elevated
glucose at baseline, there is utility in flagging the case for review to
reflect on whether we should improve our management just prior to the
OR as well even though this measure captures anesthesia start until
anesthesia end.
2. Clark Fisher (Yale): I would prefer to exclude them but not to the extent
of holding up this measure - especially patients coming from inpatient
who have not been managed well prior and there is limited time to treat
glucose at the beginning of the case with all other anesthesia tasks
a. Allison Janda (MPOG Cardiac Sub. Chair): We still want to know
if we’re managing these patients well or not, so I’m not sure if
we want to exclude them. Definitely a gray zone- we do need a
way to at least flag these patients differently.
iv. Brandi Bottiger (Duke) via chat - Allison, thinking of your idea of a staged
approach. Ultimately, will there be a way to view “all cardiac cases” with metric
performance, and be able to filter to bypass cases or DHCA?
1. Allison Janda (MPOG Cardiac Sub. Chair) - We currently don’t have these
filters. Determining which cases had bypass or not is difficult based on
documentation since it is so variable at different institutions. Even if we
did have the ability to toggle/filter, It would not be 100% accurate -
more like 90% accurate for bypass cases for example.
2. Brandi Bottiger (Duke) - Thats understandable and can understand it
must be a mapping nightmare
3. Allison Janda (MPOG Cardiac Sub. Chair) - We are getting a little better
at catching some of these mismappings during the onboarding process
for new sites. I think that this is a potential filter for the future.
4. Kate Buehler (MPOG Clinical Program Manager)- Hopefully in 2023
those filters for some case types that Dr. Bottinger mentioned will be
available!
v. Tammy Atwood (Henry Ford Allegiance) via chat - Completely agree with
Michael's comments. We used to use a dextrose base cardioplegia and it
required a lot of communication and timing on insulin dosing, cardioplegia
dosing and drawing of blood glucoses to measure.
1. Allison Janda (MPOG Cardiac Sub. Chair) - It would be hard to have
cardioplegia type as a covariate because this is not routinely
documented in MPOG, however we are doing adjusted AKI and
mortality measures which are on the horizon.
vi. Guarav Katta (Henry Ford Health System): Would it be possible to find out at the
granular level what type of cardioplegia was used with the cases that are
hypoglycemic.
1. Mike Mathis (MPOG Research Director) - Yes, however only with STS
integrated data with MPOG. With MPOG alone its challenging to do but
we are continuing to develop phenotypes in this area.
2. Allison Janda (MPOG Cardiac Sub. Chair) - STS data only applies to 8 to 9
institutions that are currently merging their STS data with MPOG.
3. Tammy Atwood (Henry Ford Allegiance) via chat - I wonder if this has
been reviewed with PERForm data specifically (cardioplegia and glucose
levels) or is this part of the STS data you review. I realize that doesn't
include all of MPOG participants.
vii. Consensus: Restrict to open cardiac only. Continue validating and proceed with
publishing this measure next year.
4. Unblinded Data Review (all site-specific comments redacted and all institution names, if
mentioned redacted)
a. All sites that perform >75 open cardiac procedures annually are presented on the slides
to follow
b. This is a closed meeting: registration required to receive the Zoom link.
c. Only those sites who have a participant on the cardiac subcommittee are unblinded
d. Cardiac Anesthesia Champions were notified that unblinded data would be shared and
were given the opportunity to opt out
e. No sites emailed us to express a desire to be excluded from this review
f. TEMP 06 and TEMP 07 unblinded data presented & discussed during the meeting:
unblinded data removed from slide deck before posting to the website. Please contact
the Coordinating Center if interested in unblinded data review at a future meeting!
5. Discussion (TEMP-06):
a. Douglas Shook (BWH) - We will definitely have patients who will fail this. We go upstairs
at 34.5 for specific cases intentionally. My only concern about the 120 minute definition
is that it is possible that some of our take-backs/bleeds that have open cardiac are in this
measure? Those can be more difficult than the ones that are planned scheduled
procedures. good information to know to address those issues.
i. Allison Janda (Cardiac Sub. Chair) - This includes both bypass and non-bypass
cases, but yes, this would include any bring-back that is at least 120 minutes.
b. Erin Welle (University of Michigan) via chat- Is this only looking at the last temperature
before leaving the room? Or are able to look at the temp coming off bypass vs leaving
the room?
i. Allison Janda (MPOG Cardiac Sub. Chair)-This is only looking at the last
non-artifact temperature (and if not available, looks at the first recorded
temperature in the ICU)
c. Guarav Katta (Henry Ford Health System) - If there is no temp within 30 mins of
anesthesia end (pre or post anesthesia end), the flowchart says flag as no available
temperature. Does that count as failure for the unblinded bar graph you posted just now
Allison? Or is that just simply excluded outright?
i. Allison Janda (MPOG Cardiac Sub. Chair) - Yes we still include that case but we
decided to flag cases that didn’t have a temperature within 30 minutes before or
after anesthesia end since there should be continual monitoring and a
temperature taken upon arrival to the ICU.
d. Mike Mathis (MPOG Research Director)- I think the next step is to breakdown the
reasons as to why cases are flagging for this measure and if its a data issue or a practice
issue.
i. Allison Janda (MPOG Cardiac Sub. Chair)- If you are reviewing cases and notice a
trend please reach out to the coordinating center. We appreciate any feedback
or mapping improvement suggestions you may have for your institution.
e. Discussion (TEMP-07):
i. Clark Fisher (Yale): Would be valuable to break out the hypothermic arrest
patients- sometimes the speed at which we come off bypass and exit the room
may be a factor. Looks like we may need to convince providers to slow down and
take time to warm the patient before leaving the room
1. Allison Janda (MPOG Cardiac Sub. Chair)- We can’t break out the HCA
patients at this point, but we tend to have a longer post-bypass time at
our institution and continue to warm the patient so I think that could be
contributing to the ability to warm patients post bypass.
ii. Brandi Bottiger (Duke): I could think of 10 questions I could ask just looking at
this graph- thanks for doing this to start the conversation around practice.
iii. Douglas Shook (BWH): This data really makes me think- would be nice to see the
sites
iv. Erin Welle (U.Michigan) - I'd be curious to see what other institutions' protocols
are for warming, because that definitely is driving our numbers here
v. Ying Low (Dartmouth) - This has been an ongoing discussion with our surgeons.
We do mostly CABG/Valve procedures who could be warmer after surgery.
Would be interested in looking at transfusion data compared to hypothermia
rates to foster communication with the surgeons.
1. Allison Janda (MPOG Cardiac Sub. Chair) - agree there are variation in
concerns across institutions as well as case type.
2. Brandi Bottiger (Duke) - Would be interesting to overlap bleeding
metrics with hypothermia. Jinx
vi. Clark Fisher (Yale) via chat - Speaking to the cultural basis of practices,
fascinating to see how much colder the Northeast is
vii. Mike Mathis (MPOG Research Director) - If others have stories like Ying, in which
MPOG could help provide data to make compelling case to change practice
patterns, let us know.
viii. Guarav Katta (Henry Ford): Of the top 5 institutions that are doing well on both
measures AND have a lot of cases, looks like [redacted] is the only one. I’d be
interested if they at some point could share their thoughts. They appear to be
the institution with large numbers of cases and doing well on both
6. Cardiac Anesthesia Subcommittee Membership
a. Next meetings:
i. April 2023
ii. August 2023
iii. Nov/Dec 2023
b. Open to all anesthesiologists or those interested in improving cardiothoracic measures
i. Do not have to practice at an active MPOG institution to participate
c. Thank you for continued use of the Basecamp forum for discussion between meetings!
Meeting adjourned at 1407
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